Annie bear is half owned by slick finisher . I allowed him to whelp the litter . She is co owned by him and m-boyz . She will never have papers due to the fact I don't paper my dogs . I wish I never allowed him to co own her . When someone is not real with you a person will always reveille there true self thru time . Once she is deemed good enough to breed I will use her for a breeding than give him papers on her when I return her to him . Slick finisher isn't a part of the Ma-Boyz camp or ever was . He never help make any of these dogs who they are . He was someone allowed to take pics with our dogs and he was allowed to whelp 2 breeding s is all . The Ma-Boyz do not vouch for Slick . He can not use us for a reference . Dogmen out there should always do a reference check . If I had in the beginning I wouldn't be in the spot I am with Slick now